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Karsan, Almanya Nrnberg'de Yedek Para Deposu Ayor.
Aklama yle:
Karsan, Avrupa'daki yedek para ve sat sonras servis an geniletmek adna nemli bir projeyi hayata geirdi. Proje kapsamnda, Almanya'nn Nrnberg ehrinde bir yedek para deposu aacak olan Karsan, ihtiya duyulan yedek paralar Avrupa'nn her noktasna 2 gn ierisinde gnderebilecek. Deponun 1 Eyll itibariyle faaliyete balayacan belirten Karsan Ticari ler Genel Mdr Yardmcs Muzaffer Arpacolu, "Avrupa'daki sat sonras servis amz glendirmek ve bayilerimizin kendilerine gelen taleplere ok ksa srede zm salamas amacyla nemli bir yatrm daha devreye aldk. 50 yl aan tecrbemize dayanarak, sat sonras mteri desteinin marka gvenilirlii ile tercih edilmede ciddi bir paya sahip olduunu biliyoruz. Kurulacak bu yap ile mterilerimizle aramzdaki mesafeleri minimuma indireceiz" deerlendirmesinde bulundu.
Gelitirdii toplu tama sistemleriyle her kente uyum salayabilecek modern zmler sunan Karsan, hem konvansiyonel hem de elektrikli modelleriyle Avrupa ehirlerinin ncelikli tercihi olmay srdrrken, yedek para ve servis an geniletmeye devam ediyor. Bu dorultuda nemli bir yatrma daha imza atan Karsan, Almanya'nn Nrnberg ehrinde bir yedek para deposu amaya hazrlanyor. Karsan, 1 Eyll tarihinde faaliyete balayacak depo ile bata elektrikli aralarnn paralar olmak zere yedek para teminini 2 gne indirecek. Bylece, ihtiya duyulan paralar Avrupa'nn her yerine ksa srede gnderecek olan Karsan, minimum zamanda dk maliyetle hizmet salayarak mteri memnuniyetini artrmay hedefliyor.
"Mesafeleri minimuma indiriyoruz"
Konuyla ilgili bilgiler veren Karsan Ticari ler Genel Mdr Yardmcs Muzaffer Arpacolu, "Covid-19 salgn sonras toparlanmaya balayan
Avrupa'dan hem konvansiyonel hem de yzde 100 elektrikli modellerimiz iin nemli adetlerde sipari almay srdyoruz. Bu dorultuda, sat sonras servis amz glendirmek ve Avrupa'daki bayilerimizin mterilerden gelen taleplerine ok ksa srede zm sunabilmek amacyla nemli bir yatrm daha devreye aldk. 50 yl aan tecrbemize dayanarak, sat sonras mteri desteinin, marka gvenilirlii ile tercih edilmede ciddi bir paya sahip olduunu biliyoruz. Yeni yatrmmzla kurulan bu yap ile mterilerimizle aramzdaki mesafeleri minimuma indireceiz" ifadelerini kulland.
Yerinde yedek para hizmeti iin Barsan Global Lojistik ile glerini birletiren Karsan, ilerleyen srete Barsan'n 45 farkl lkede bulunan depolarndan ve lojistik andan da faydalanarak operasyon gcn katlamay planlyor.
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Workhorse: Potansiyel USPS Szlemesine Ynelik D Grnm
27 Au 2020 17:48 ET Workhorse Group Inc. ( WKHS ) KODK, OSK 54 Yorumlar
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u anda 17.43 $ fiyatla sata sunulan WKHS, yalnzca agresif gelecek beklentilerine dayal olarak, gerek bir gelir olmadan 1.8 milyar $ 'lk zengin bir piyasa snrna sahip.
Pek ok Workhorse boas, potansiyel ABD Posta Hizmetleri szlemesinin her derde deva olmak zere tm hastalklar iyiletireceine gveniyor.
Workhorse'un bugnn deerlemesini hakl karacak lde karl bir ara reticisi olabileceinden phe ediyor.
USPS szlemesi iin rekabeti teklif verme sreci, Workhorse'un szlemeyi kazanmas iin nemli kayplara yol aacaktr.
Yani herhangi bir senaryoda, Workhorse kaybeder ve 1.8 milyar dolarlk balon sonunda sner.
5 Austos'ta yaynlanan Workhorse'u (NASD**: WKHS ) ieren bir makale yazdmdan beri , Workhorse hisseleri daha yksek ilem hacimlerinde 15 ila 19 dolar aralnda olduka dalgal. 10 Austos'ta Workhorse, 92 bin dolarlk gelir ve 131,3 milyon dolarlk net zarara sahip ikinci eyrek sonularn bildirdi (ounlukla dntrlebilir bir senetin piyasa deerindeki ani art nedeniyle meydana gelen 108,4 milyon dolarlk nakit d cret dahil) 2. eyrekte hisse senedi fiyat). Ynetim, ikinci eyrekte yalnzca bir kamyonun teslim edildiini ve bu eyrekte yalnzca bir avu kamyonun teslim edilmesinin beklendiini belirtti. Ynetim, Aralk eyreinin sonunda birka yz kamyon retmeyi umduunu belirterek iyimser kald.
10 Austos'tan bu yana, Workhorse'un ABD Posta Servisi {USPS} yeni nesil teslimat kamyonu szlemesini kazanmas zerine speklasyonlar artyor. USPS, Workhorse hisselerinin birincil itici gc haline geliyor. Bu nedenle, aada USPS szlemesiyle ilgili olarak Workhorse iin boa ve ay durumunu saladm. Bu boa ve ay senaryolar, USPS szlemesi iin dier iki teklif sahibiyle yaplan tartmalar da dahil olmak zere, son makalemden bu yana topladm yeni bilgileri ieriyor.
Boa Vakas
Boalar, 6 milyar dolarlk ABD Posta Servisi {USPS} szlemesinin byk ksmnn Workhorse'a gideceine inanyor. Onlar, rotay tersine evirmek ve Yeile gitmeyi bir ncelik haline getirmek iin Trump ynetimine gveniyorlar, bu da USPS'nin Workhorse'un elektrikli ara {EV} teslimat kamyonetlerini satn almasna dnecek. Ek bir art, EV kamyonlarnn dk bakm maliyetlerine sahip olmasdr.
Ohio deiken bir eyalet ve Trump yeniden seilmek istiyor. Boalar, bunu Workhorse'un USPS szlemesine hak kazanmas iin bir baka itici g olarak gryor.
Boa antasndaki yeni bir bklme, Lordstown Motors tesisini, ana EV kamyonetine ek olarak posta hizmeti teslimat kamyonetleri yapmak iin glendirme potansiyeli. Bunun tam olarak nasl baarlaca hala bir muamma. Bu yeni stratejinin nedeni, 2. eyrek konferans grmesi srasnda ynetimin, Indiana, Union City'deki Workhorse tesisinin bugn bu kadar byk bir szleme iin maliyet asndan rekabeti olmayabileceini belirtmesidir. Lordstown Motors'un, Workhorse'un% 10 hissesine sahip olduu bamsz bir irket olduu unutulmamaldr.
Boalar, bu szleme aklandnda buna inanrlar. Workhorse hisseleri ykselecek. Boa durumunda, 6 milyar dolarlk bir szlemenin ounluunu alan 4 milyar dolar diyelim, nmzdeki on yllk gelirlerde indirim oran olmadan ok cmert bir ekilde deerlendi, 46 dolarn biraz zerinde bir maksimum hisse fiyatna eittir (hisse bana 38 dolar) USPS szlemesi,% 10 Lordstown hissesi iin 2 $ ve zel teslimat kamyoneti szlemelerinin son derece ykselen sat taraf tahminlerine dayal 6 $ - tahminlerinde USPS gelirlerini hari tuttuklarn varsayarak). Bir ler aslnda bir negatif brt marj ile USPS szleme kazanan, bu makalenin sonraki bir deer ktleyicisi ele alacaklar. irket teslim edemeyecekleri ve tonlarca para kaybedecekleri bir USPS szlemesinin byk bir ksmn kazansa bile Workhorse'un fiyat hedefini deitirmem .
Boalar, hisse senedi fiyatndaki sramay iddetlendirecek ksa pozisyonlarda marj skmasndan yararlanabilir. Ksa faiz u anda tedavldeki hisselerin% 22'sidir. Ayrca, Workhorse ortlar, haberlerde sat yapan birok Workhorse yatrmcsndan etkilenebilir ve bu da yksek fiyatlardan zorunlu almlara yol aabilir (nk dn alnan hisseler satlaca iin ksa satclar kapatmaya zorlar).
Ay rnei
Aylar, Workhorse'un USPS szlemesi iin ne teslim edebileceini ne de rekabet edemeyeceini belirtiyor. Workhorse, USPS'nin gerektirdii binlerce kamyonu teslim etmeye yakn bile olmayan ilevsiz bir irket oldu.
Workhorse, rakipleri gibi eksiksiz bir teslimat kamyonu salamak iin dikey olarak entegre edilmemitir, rakipleri gibi servis veya garanti desteine sahip deildir ve mali adan istikrarszdr. Her iki rakibi de ABD'ye ve dier hkmetlere onlarca yldr teslimat ve / veya askeri aralar salyor.
Odadaki byk fil, Workhorse'un u anki 1.8 milyar dolarlk deerlemesidir. Bu deerlemeyi hakl karmak veya amak iin Workhorse'un karl bir ekildeUSPS szlemesinin byk ksmn karaya karn. Bu USPS teslimat kamyonu ihalesi, rekabeti bir teklif verme srecidir. USPS'den daha kk hacimleri olan Morgan Olson tarafndan kazanlan son Kanada posta kamyonu teslimat sipariinin fiyat gz nne alndnda, teslimat kamyoneti bana 30.000 ila 40.000 $ arasnda bir fiyat tahmin ediyorum. Workhorse'un bataryas tek bana 30 bin dolara mal oluyor. Workhorse bir ekilde szlemeyi kazanmay baarrsa, negatif brt marjlar olacaktr. Workhorse szlemeyi kazansa bile kaybederler. Aslnda, Lordstown Motors da kaybediyor - bu soruyu akla getiriyor, Lordstown neden bu negatif brt kar marj teslimat minibs iin karl Endurance EV kamyonetinden glendirme masraflarndan geip kapasitesini elinden almak istesin? Bu, Trump iin siyasi bir karmaa yaratabilir.
hale srecinin detaylar gizli olmakla birlikte, hem Morgan Olson hem de Oshkosh ( OSK ), teknolojiden bamsz olduklarn ve bir EV teslimat kamyonetinin yan sra bir hibrit veya yanmal motor teslim edebileceklerini aklad. Oshkosh, USPS teklifini sunarken, bir EV teklifini karlamak iin yeterli esneklii braktklarndan bile bahsetti. Oshkosh ynetimi, dier baz aralarnda kulland gelimi EV teknolojisine sahip olduunu belirtti. Bu nedenle Workhorse, USPS szlemesinin tek EV salaycs deildir.
Oshkosh'un ynetimi, teknik, dayankllk ve ilevsel olarak en iyi datm kamyonuna sahip olduklarn hissetti; bu nedenle, szleme liyakate gre verilirse, Oshkosh ynetimi kazanma ansnn en yksek olduuna inanr. Morgan-Olson ayrca USPS iin yksek kaliteli bir teslimat kamyonunu seri retme kapasitesine sahiptir. Workhorse, basite yapmaz.
Pek ok boa, Ohio'yu yaklaan ABD seimlerinde sallanan bir eyalet olarak, teklifi kazanan Workhorse'a balamaya alyor. Bunu anlamak zor. Her eyden nce, Lordstown Motors Ohio'da bulunuyor. Bu, Trump'n kampanyasnn odak noktasyd ve bu yaz Bakan Yardmcs Pence'in katld byk bir alla Lordstown fabrikasn baaryla yeniden at. Bylece, Ohio, Lordstown halk iin iini yapt. Wisconsin ve Virginia da hareketli eyaletlerdir. Trump, ulusal seimleri kazanmak iin daha iyi bir ansa sahip olmak istiyorsa, bu szlemeyi Oshkosh, Wisconsin ve / veya Danville, Virginia (Morgan Olson'n yeni teslimat kamyoneti tesisi) ile paylamamak lgnca olurdu. Aslnda Trump, USPS szlemesinin ounu pheli bir eyalet d tedarikiye vermesi nedeniyle Wisconsin ve Virginia'daki semenleri zebilir. Ve belirtildii gibi,
Ayrca, Eastman Kodak ( KODK ) gibi siyasi olarak dllendirilmi fonlar da ie yaramad. Arka plan olarak, Federal hkmet ksa sre nce, yerli retimi artrma kampanyasnn bir paras olarak, irketin ABD'de ila bileenleri retmesine yardmc olmak iin Eastman Kodak'a 765 milyon dolar bor vermeyi nerdi. Birka gn iinde 3 dolardan 40 dolara frladktan sonra, Kodak hisseleri SEC'in incelemeleri ve birok yatrmc davasnn ortasnda u anda 6 dolara dt. Kodak bunu yapamad. la retim tecrbesi olmayan bir irketin kabuu. Bakan Trump, teslim edemeyen baka bir irkete szleme imzalamann utan ve olas yasal sonularn neden riske atsn?
Workhorse, asla gereklemeyen yz milyonlarca dolarlk vaat edilen szlemeler de dahil olmak zere agresif yatrmc medya kampanyalar gemiine sahiptir. Bu, Workhorse'un gemi maceralarnn grkemli bir versiyonu gibi grnyor. Workhorse szlemeyi kazansa bile, bence irket teslim edemeyecek ya da iten kacak. Haber zerine sat ok byk olacak. Bugnn 1,8 milyar dolarlk deerlemesi hibir senaryoda srdrlebilir deil.
Aklama: Ben / biz ksayz WKHS. Bu makaleyi kendim yazdm ve kendi grlerimi ifade ediyor. Bunun iin tazminat alamyorum (Alfa Aray dnda). Bu makalede ad geen hibir irketle i ilikim yok
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Today, 3:20 PM
Bears doubt that Workhorse can ever become a profitable vehicle producer to the extent that it would justify today's valuation.
Sounds familiar
Many of us said same of an EV company using an old GM factory in Fremont CA to make electric cars.
Also, 6 billion splits nice three ways....
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Today, 12:30 PM
You are so wrong to miss out on the fact that the winner of this tender will also win the 20years maintenance contract for these vehicles when you evaluate the tender as "a losing deal". Selling a copy machine is a losing deal if you don't count in the consumables and maintenance fees that Konica Minolta will receive in the coming 5 years. The maintenance fee can be 10%-15% of the selling price of a vehicle every year, which makes it a long term recurrent income for the winning company.
Workhorse used to have its partner VT Hackney, which is a subsidiary of ST Engineering, a Temasek owned company. In 2019 Dec Workhorse bought all the IPR with 7M USD from VT Hackney to bid on its own. If Workhorse management is not very confident, they will not do this deal and pay in advance.
Lordstown CEO is ex-Workhorse CEO, it is so obvious that Lordstown will help Workhorse to manufacture the trucks. And when you talk about Donald Trump, his election promise was to revive Lordstown and bring jobs back to this town. He just sent Pence to give a keynote speech at Lordstown's new car debut ceremony and he is almost certain to help Workhorse since Steve Burns of Lordstown helped him to fulfill his promise in bring jobs back to Lordstown. This is how business and politics work.
BTW I just expect Workhorse to get 1/4 of the tender and that is already enough for me to put my money in this company.
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Today, 12:38 PM
Edward, prefers to remain in the background when other SA authors dont cherry pick tough questions, similar to Trump. I advised Edward to step up and provide a lot of explanations in response to 90% Negative comments or comments that are against his views. Edward if listening, this is an excellent opportunity to step up and face the community that prefers to share ideas and even if you are against WKHS, we all appreciate views and data.
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Today, 12:04 PM
One of the big assumptions in this article is the price WKHS would charge the post office for this vehicle. The author can't have any idea on that. The price would depend on many things. We don't know how big the battery pack will be on WKHS USPS vehicles. USPS vehicles don't go far in a day, so it's possible they would use a smaller pack. Lots of unknowns.
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Today, 11:54 AM
Why did I make $26,800 in less then 12 hours of work? Because I do research and I cover all areas on High Growth. I've been telling people for many months on most of these.
GPVRF
SHLL
NIO
WKHS
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I can tell anyone that this is all Speculative picks but its not. I've gotten blasted for entering all these positions but today I make 550% on just one of these picks. The point is this is not rocket science work, just cover all areas of due diligence.
WKHS will explode too. I do Options and Long term holds for massive gains.
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Today, 10:50 AM
edward schneider .....
2020 has been very "volitile" year. all stocks have been volatile. you can pick any stock and check history and it will show volatility on all stocks. 2020 is unusual year.
"Being alive in 2020 is special because that is the only year you are likely to live through wherein the first two digits will match the second two digits. The next year that follows this pattern is 2121. A person alive now would have to be at least 101 to see that year. While that is possible, it is unlikely."
just take a glance at all the things that are happening around you. 2020 is extra ordinary year.
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Today, 10:33 AM
edward schneider ...
that was a powerful article. stock is based on speculation. this is why many people lose thousands of dollars sitting in front of computers and on the otherhand make millions doing so. cannot become MILLIONAIRE without taking risks. we have 30 days until USPS contract is awarded.
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Today, 10:24 AM
The idea that Lordstown could not build the USPS trucks for Workhorse is ridiculous - that's the EXACT reason Burns set out to create Lordstown Motors in the first place.
Go to 1:09 in this video, they have retooled the Lordstown plant to make vehicles for the post office.
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Today, 4:44 AM
Thanks to all of you for taking such an interest in my article. I respect all of your opinions, and will try to respond to as many of your comments below as possible:
1) In terms of transparency and stating all facts - all readers should read the more extensive August 5th article that gives a more complete picture of Workhorse. The two articles go together.
2) I am not denying the possibility of a two-winner outcome - Oshkosh/Ford and Workhorse. But it is very unclear, at least to me, how Workhorse can deliver the bulk of the USPS contract in this scenario. On the Q2 conf call, mgmt admitted that the Union City plant is still early in the learning curve, and will have higher production costs. Mgmt then pivoted to using the Lordstown plant to supply the USPS delivery trucks. Given the competitive bidding process/low margins, the retrofitting expenses, the capacity issues, etc, I just don't see this happening.
In fact, if I were DPHC, I would cut-out WKHS, as the only way to have a chance at making a profit on the USPS contract. WKHS got a sweetheart deal a few years ago thanks to its ex-CEO. In my opinion, WKHS is now a drag on Lordstown, and brings very little to the table. As documented in the last article, the IP is limited to a small number of non-blocking patents, many of which start expiring in a few years. Workhorse cannot competitively produce in high volume, and is now looking for Lordstown to bail them out.
3) On the political comments, I think that if President Trump was running for governor of Ohio, then giving the bulk of the contract to Lordstown (who Trump has already helped out immensely) makes sense. But there are other swing states that he needs in order to get elected as the President of the Untied States.
I did a Google search on Swing States, and this is the first article that popped up - www.express.co.uk/... According to their analysis, Wisconsin is a swing state, and Ohio and Virginia are potential swing states. While you can argue the merits of this article, I did not just make this up.
I believe that President Trump awarding the bulk of the USPS contract to Workhorse will backfire on him. The reasons were clearly laid out in this article.
4) I am not immune to the market action. This stock should have tanked a long time ago, but it has not. So, maybe the fix is in, and President Trump and Postmaster DeJoy are going to give this contract to Workhorse come hell or high water. There is just the rational part of my brain that keeps on telling me that this makes no sense whatsoever - not even for President Trump. So, it will be interesting to see how this story unfolds in the coming months.
I wish good luck to all of you with your investments.
Ed Schneider
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Today, 7:48 AM
@Edward Schneider, CFA Since you chose not to address my question I will post it again to give you an opportunity to be honest and transparent.
Please elaborate on the discussions you had with management with two other bidders. I was under the impression there was an NDA. This would seem to be in violation of the NDA. Your article disclosed details surrounding the details of what was included in the bids of OshKosh and Morgan Olson. Who provided you with this information?
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Today, 8:45 AM
Dear 1stack,
Your question was already answered in the article - I spoke with the representatives of the two other bidders - Oshkosh and JB Poindexter/Morgan Olson.
Of course confidential details were neither provided to me nor published in this article, as they were under NDA. So, please play your insinuation games somewhere else.
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Today, 9:33 AM
@Edward Schneider, CFA
Oshkosh even mentioned that when submitting its USPS bid, they left enough flexibility to accommodate for an EV offering.
Thus, Workhorse is not the only EV provider of the USPS contract.
According to your article Oshkosh provided you with information regarding its bid which you used to draw the conclusion regarding whether or not Workhorse is the only EV bid. If this is public information and has been disclosed then by all means prove me wrong as I would like to be educated on this point. If this is not public information and has not been disclosed previously then it would seem to be in violation of the NDA to be discussing specifics of the Oshkosh bid.
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Today, 12:13 AM
Anything with the perception of producing jobs in an election year is a win. Both sides want to take credit. They will definitely get USPS money for EV and manufacturing.
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Yesterday, 11:14 PM
Recap why WKHS will win USPS or share anx gain huge momentum for 2020, 2021
* 2 players in final bid
* USPS Contract 0, 25, 50, 75 or 100 % is what WKHS will receive. My prediction is the first 2 are out, leaving 50 to 100% of the contract will be in play ...or $3.4 billion to 6.8 on the table.
* 9/15 to 9/30 final selection made
WKHS will be profiting huge with Lordstown 10% ownership and the partnership to help manufactur new EVs.
* Huge huge investors involved with this stock, and ARK ETF has got 550,000 shares on the line so the likelihood of 0%, 25% is very very low.
* First mover and Only US pure play OEM in electrification for last mile
* Duke Energy partnership
Partnership with Ryder and others
7 patents, 4 pending
* Scale with Union City, Indiana to mass produce when bid wins
* Delivery Costs Reduced for WKHS customers such as USPS compared to Oshkosh....you ask what? How? Where? C'mon peeps...look again. Workhorse also has another idea to drive down delivery costs. Give the delivery driver a robotic buddya Horsefly. Thats the name of Workhorses autonomous four-rotor drone.
The drones drive down costs by letting the driver make multiple deliveries at once. Its like another delivery man, adds Schrader who explains it can cost a logistics company up to $1 to deliver a package. The [drone] is 4 cents [per package]. A Horsefly drone, of course, could be used on any van with total cost for delivery being a mix of truck, driver and drone
So when all these brilliant authors provide their one sides articles...they should at least cover all variables involved before summation. How can you justify future valuation? Its not easy but you need capture all variables in context and not be bias because you don't feel something.. Feelings are not apart of final analysis, just give all the facts.
If you really want to stretch outside the box, try adding in the Political influence. You go go either route on this. Boden will be huge for EV sector since he is all in on GREEN, versus Trump who doesn't believe in climate issues but he believes in making money. Trump can certainly have an impact for selecting WKHS, and i would bet Lordstown and WKHS are double teaming TRUMP, PENCE and RNC with every incentive they can offer. I'm not suggesting Dems or Repubs are better fit here, that to me is a different article, but politics is an important variable when measuring data points.
To the nay sayers, thank you. I always respect all opinions and without difference we cannot put the full context in place.
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Yesterday, 11:32 PM
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One more important update to add
Workhorse announced that its C-Series all-electric delivery trucks have been deemed eligible for the Hybrid and Zero-Emission Truck and Bus Voucher Incentive Project program by the California Air Resources Board (CARB). Commenting on the implications of this designation, Workhorse CEO, Duane Hughes, noted:
"Our eligibility for the HVIP program is expected to help dramatically reduce purchasing costs for California-based potential customers when additional funding becomes available, which is expected in the fall of this year."
Similarly, on the 23rd of July, Workhorse announced that it landed an initial purchase order of 20 all-electric C-1000 delivery vehicles from trucking company eTrucks, thereby, allowing the company to expand its order book and sales reach.
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Yesterday, 9:16 PM
The average daily mileage for the current USPS LLV is less than 20 miles a day. Why would WKHS use a battery that cost $30k?
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Yesterday, 10:29 PM
@1stack because they are bust out know nothing con men
They have made a ton of money Buying and selling the stock manipulating the price just like Kodak
Do a little research look at the parties involved they are professional thieves
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Yesterday, 8:50 PM
Edward,
Aside from ARKQs WKHS holdings.
The company is aligned with Duke Energy to offer fleet electrification ("eFleet") solutions to existing and future Workhorse customers, including the development of the EV infrastructure requirements for its current and future blue chip customers including both commercial and GOVERNMENTAL fleets. Plus... they are the ONLY US all-electric OEM in the last-mile delivery space with federal safety standard approval. Then theres the massive California Zero-Emission Truck and Bus Voucher program they just became eligible for.
Oh, they have a fully autonomously FAA compliant drone for package delivery.
Best of luck with this article.
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Yesterday, 10:34 PM
@brianfmarx@gmail.com look at earnings
Loss 131 million Q 2
Revenue 92,000
Will only deliver one vehicle in Q 2
It would be different if they knew what they were doing
Heres the biggest test for Lordstown Motors Workhorse etc The election, if Biden wins lets see how Workhorse and their partners react
Its called were fucked now no more favors from Trump
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Today, 12:12 AM
@Gypsy1969
Sorry wrong Again.
House Democratic's Moving Forward Act.
Then Sec. 50002
Requires the Postal Service to use any of the authorized funds to purchase electric or zero-emission vehicles to replace its current right-hand-drive vehicles to the maximum extent practicable. However, at least 75 percent of the new fleet must be such vehicles. The section would also require that the fleet of medium and heavy-duty trucks consist of at least 30 percent of electric vehicles by 2030 and that any vehicle purchased after 2040 be electric or zero-emission.
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Inig Madik
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Today, 9:20 AM
Wow... thanks for that!!!
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MikeFromNZ
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Yesterday, 8:48 PM
It's very petty to insist that the USPS contract or WKHS be profitable, investors never made such unreasonable demands of TSLA and it's worth $400B.
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Mr. Driller
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Yesterday, 8:30 PM
Author Lost credibility with me when he says Virginia is a swing State. It isn't at all. Trump's got bigger fish to fry than Wisconsin - Like AZ and FL and PA. No Republican President since Lincoln has won without Ohio. The author's Lack of knowledge in this area is used against WKHS. At best, his assertions are incomplete.
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Yesterday, 9:08 PM
@Mr. Driller I lived in Virginia for 34 years and been all over the state many times. Downtrodden Danville wouldnt move any state wide election .1%! Northern Virginia with Richmond and most of the Tidewater area rules the state. They are all heavily Democratic, not really a swing state any longer.
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1stack
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Yesterday, 9:17 PM
@Mr. DrillerHillary won the state by 5 points in 2016. Nobody considers it a battleground state anymore except for the author apparently.
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Gypsy1969
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Yesterday, 10:39 PM
@Mr. Driller Theres a nice 2016 article on seeking alpha that reveals the real story behind this
You know prior to Trump being president
Assholes would take deposit for vehicles never deliver
The money would disappear mostly paying themselves then go get a high interest loan to pay the deposit money back
They would be a nobody if they didnt have Trump sucking their ass
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Yesterday, 8:01 PM
Just remember Electric Trucks isn't the only think they produce , There is an item they build for the US Government and a few other things as well , yes I am Bullish but I do think it will take some time because the Virus more less set things back for many companies at this time
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Yesterday, 7:33 PM
My views
1. Edward certainly makes some sound financial points but it doesnt mean that paints the full picture of WKHS (current or future) positions.
2. Though Edward makes some decent points on Financials and capabilities, the issue is you're assuming you know a the details behind the scenes which obviously you do not.
3. Transparency- though we try to model ourselves and companies we invest in to have full Transparency why should a poker player show all the cards now when there are many variables at stake. NDAs certainly have an impact here but besides non disclosures I highly doubt WKHS would want to show all its best cards.
4. Timing will tell us what we need to know about WKHS. Yes its true profits have not given the true value projected onto WKHS but besides the USPS, contract everyone is assuming WKHS will be bankrupt if they lose the contract entirely. I would not or never say that for certain.
5. Edward you're making assumption and leaving out some very key parts to impact the thesis of your article. Yes congrats on your technical abilities and analysis on financials, any CFA can propose such details but you're also skewing the thesis without adding in other variables here.
6. My bigger concern into buying in your thesis, i would RATHER hedge my bets on CATHIE WOOD of ARK Investments knows 1000% more then all of us from a day to day analysis view. So what you're saying Edward is Ms. Wood and her thousands of shares into WKHS, and other major investors with a strong history of investing are all wrong about WKHS. All these investors have missed your thesis points! Is that logical Edward to assume the best minds in investing are wrong?
7. Could it be that some financial writers want to influence the market shares to drive prices lower to enable a better entry point or add in positions to earn more? I assume you have the best intentions here and I am in no way suggesting that you don't, but has a negative article ever been so frothy at the bit?
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Gypsy1969
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Yesterday, 10:42 PM
@M00neyzzxx Tell me Workhorses future if Trump is defeated
They will throw in the towel so quick it wont be funny
Especially for all the investors holding the bag of shit they will turn into
They are nothing without Trump
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Yesterday, 7:33 PM
So... what you're saying is that you are short WKHS or live/work/have family/friends in Oshkosh, Wisconsin and/or Danville, Virginia who are also short WKHS or LONG one of their possible contract competitors or just long Oil and betting/hoping all against EV startups... or are against Trump winning reelection or all the above?!!!!!
And what exactly might this mean:
"The competitive bidding process for the USPS contract would lead to substantial losses for Workhorse to win the contract."?!!!
I have been under the impression that all bids were in... that the RFP was put out some years ago and that all anyone has been waiting for is for the USPS to somehow manage funding finally announce a decision!!! How does that cost WKHS anything other than their current and already submitted entries?!!
You also fail to note in your thesis that the CEO of Lordstown, Steve burns was the creator and CEO of WKHS before taking his idea's for Niche EV startups over to Lordstown (ie... WKHS in last mile delivery vehicles, lets start another Company for the Fleet Work Truck Market) along with securing for a better than reasonable price a basically fully tooled Plant (that once put out 600,000 Vehicles a year... ie it's a rather large place) and thus in all probability has been prepared to do whatever WKHS needs to fulfill any and all contracts WKHS might have and/or get!!!
I could go on, but in short... I humbly disagree with many of your assertions and ultimate conclusions... long WKHS and DPHC!!!
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Yesterday, 7:32 PM
I think if Trump has a say in the contract, he would be wise to split the contract with states he needs support in. Assuming the contract is awarded before the election it makes each state satisfied. Trump will have done his part to help each state involved and the production would not have an impact until after the election is over. The percentage split can be all over the board.
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Gypsy1969
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Yesterday, 10:45 PM
@Cancun43 How about splitting it with some experienced companies no matter what state they are from
Then you can try and put a real company together
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Yesterday, 7:10 PM
Why did you not compare this to Nikolas 14 billion valuation without any FMVSS. I seem to remember when GM sold Tesla a plant and look how that turned out. I am strong and long Workhorse. This article is like saying short Apple Stock.
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Yesterday, 6:57 PM
Please elaborate on the discussions you had with management with two other bidders. I was under the impression there was an NDA. This would seem to be in violation of the NDA.
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Be A Man
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Yesterday, 7:19 PM
@1stack having worked for a major government contractor in my past (US Air Force), prior to the award no bidder can disclose any details of the bid. He talked to the other bidders? Hmmmm.
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Yesterday, 9:18 PM
@Be A ManSo you believe he is being dishonest and has not had any discussions with two other bidders?
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Be A Man
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Yesterday, 10:08 PM
@1stack I wouldnt say dishonest but what ever information the two other bidders would disclose would need to so general in nature and non specific that it would amount to be little more than a marketing brochure by each firm.
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Be A Man
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Yesterday, 6:47 PM
That you are short the stock does not make you a neutral/ impartial analyst so while interesting, it is not compelling. The US Government contracting business is always looking for small business awards that are capable and this is one.
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Gypsy1969
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Yesterday, 6:44 PM
Its about time someone said something about the con men behind this
Trump made sure he got a 10 billion dollar note from treasury for postal transportation
Trump will make sure all the people he put at the postal service will follow his orders to give the contract to Workhorse even though they dont deserve it and will
Not be able to fill it
But they are his people and thats all that counts in his mind plus getting his 20% cut
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Yesterday, 6:37 PM
When they dont get the Postal contract this will hit $8. To much risk the government never gives huge contacts to start up companies.
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Yesterday, 6:35 PM
I looked at WKHS and other EV stocks and ultimately bought into DPHC/Lordstown Motors (soon to be RIDE). Having the former GM factory already in place for basically no cost + $75M add'l GM investment weighed heavily on my decision. Physical assets of a car manufacturing plant currently being re-tooled ready to churn out EV trucks by 2Q next year gave me more confidence in them. All others seem to be just a lot of talk & hype stories.
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Inig Madik
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Today, 12:32 AM
WKHS and DPHC are basically one and the same Company!!!
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Yesterday, 6:30 PM
Isnt this the same guy that said Tesla was going broke?
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Inig Madik
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Yesterday, 7:05 PM
By "Broke".... he meant that it was going to "broke" all known stock market/trading records!!!
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Yesterday, 10:45 PM
@americanresearch
Ha! He seems like a good fortune teller especially since TSLAs over $2,000🤦*♂️ Very reputable and I feel as confident in his financial advice as my 3yo🙄
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